5 Secrets to Machine Quilting with 12 wt. Thread
Before sharing my 5 secrets to machine quilting with 12 wt. thread – travel with me back in time to a few weeks ago (cue dreamy music)…
It was a rainy day in May and I was teaching a Sew Mojo Mini workshop (watch the video class here and get the patterns here) in Grand Rapids, Michigan (heeeeyo to my GR ladies!) My teaching style is, how to say this...mostly me giving loose instructions and then hopping around oooohing and ahhhhing over the splendid things everyone is making. I sprinkle in lots of jokes and dance moves – it’s a party!
Anyway, in my afternoon sesh, while frolicking from table to table, I stopped abruptly in front of a shining and glorious mini quilt. It was magnificent for many reasons, but what caught my eye was the beautiful chunky quilting. It was like a high-tech embroidery machine got together with some traditional hand quilting and created a magical hybrid stitch full of texture and depth!
“What weight is your thread?? I must know!” I breathily asked. I was in a trance. A love trance.
“I’m machine quilting with 12 wt. thread. Kinda cool, right?” Amanda, the maker of this glorious and magnificent mini quilt, casually replied.
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Well, there was nothing casual about my new infatuation with this chunk-o-licious stitch. I was smitten right then and there and vowed to use thick, lustrous 12 wt. thread on my next quilt. But, before diving into a full quilt, which I now have (more on that in a later post), I needed to run some tests. Veeery scientific tests.
Test Results for Machine Quilting with 12 wt. Thread
After many tests and much research, I discovered 5 secrets to machine quilting with 12 wt. thread which I would now like to pass along to you, my gentle reader. Ready for the magic?
- The Needle. Typically I recommend piecing and machine quilting with an 80/12 Universal needle. That's assuming you're using quilt-weight cotton and standard batting. When quilting with a thicker thread, like 12 wt., you're going to want to up that needle to be more heavy duty – like a 90/14. This will prevent your thread from breaking.
- The Bobbin. Even though you are using 12 wt. thread as your top thread, use your regular quilting weight thread in your bobbin. For me that's 40 or 50 wt. After checking out a couple different color combinations, I decided that what looks best is if I matched the top and bobbin threads. I don't always do that when machine quilting, but since I could see the bobbin thread ever so slighting in between top stitches, no matter how I adjusted my tension settings, I landed on simply matching the threads.
- The Tension. I was running my tests on a BERNINA 770 QE and did not need to adjust any tension settings. However, if you have a different kind of machine with completely manual tension, you may need to loosen your top thread tension. The key here is to TEST. Make a mini quilt and test your settings. If the thread is breaking – your tension is too tight. Try adjusting your top thread tension before tweaking with the bobbin thread tension. Chances are you won’t need to adjust your bobbin tension.
- The Stitch. You don't neeeeed to change your stitch length from what you normally use when piecing or quilting, but you might want to based on the aesthetic you're trying to achieve. My normal stitch length is 2.5. I actually use that for both piecing and machine quilting. You can see in the example below what stitch lengths of 2.5, 3.0, and 4.0 look like.
- The Speed. It's slow. Just like I recommend "walking" with your walking foot, sew slowly when working with a thread this thick. According to most sewing machines, 12 wt. thread is the thickest thread you can safely use in a sewing machine. That means that you are pushing your BFF to the limit. So? Slow and steady.
Supplies for Machine Quilting with 12 wt. Thread
Now you know how to stitch with 12 wt. thread, so let's grab your tools and get to work! What am I carrying in my fancy, glammed-out toolbox? Here's the list:
- Sulky 12 wt. cotton thread – I actually got a huge pack of this thread a few years ago because I loved how soft and easy it was to work with.
- Cotton + Steel 50 wt. cotton thread – beautifully made and beautifully packaged. This thread is a joy to work with. I highlighted it in my two-part series on thread. There's even a cool video on how it's made! Check out Sewing Thread Part I: How Is Thread Made? and Sewing Thread Part I: The Best Quality Sewing Thread
- 90/14 Universal Needle – Read more about universal needles here!
- Quilters Dream Wool Batting – Want your chunky stitches to stand out even more? Use a batting that's got some fluff. Quilters Dream Wool Batting is what I use when I'm treating myself...and I treat myself a lot. Read more about choosing the right batting here!
- Solid Kona cotton
And that's all there is to it! Let me know your results and if you have a favorite type of 12 wt. thread. Be sure to leave a comment! xo
I like the slightly longer stitches. However,I love using an 80 or 90 Topstitch needle when quilting.
Thank you for all these tips. It is so helpful to have someone who is doing this tell you some tips!
Happy to help!
Suzy would this be an option for stitching and fused appliqué quilt. I love wool batting and the comfort as well as the look. Thanks for the 5 tips!!
A great option for that!
Thank you! I love the look!
-Jean💟
Such valuable information! I’m going to give 12wt thread a try!
Hi Sue,
Love all the tips! Would I be able to use this 12 wt. thread for free motion quilting on my home machine? Or is it better to just do parallel lines with my walking foot?
I think free-motion quilting may be a little more than 12 wt. thread can handle. You need to move quicker when sewing that way, which could cause the thread to break.
You suggested to MATCH the top and bobbin threads. I presume you meant to match the COLOR?
I LOVE the look of 12 Wt thread. Thanks for tips!
That’s exactly right – match the color.
Cool. Can’t wait to try it. I’m closing in on a 48” sq. quilt for which this will be exciting. Thx!!
This is fantastic! Thank you for testing it all out for us and providing your scientific results! Do you ever use the hand look quilting stitches built into the QEE?
I’ve tried it…but maybe because I am a hand quilting fanatic, I just don’t really like the look. It’s possible I don’t have my settings correct. Do you use it?
I have just tried those stitches out on practice quilting. Couldn’t make it work either. But I’m not a hand quilter. . Your thread tutorial is a game changer for me. You are da quilting bomb! 😎
Terri, I have been very pleased with my results using stitches built-in to my domestic Janome.
I used white Aurifil 12 wt in my domestic machine (Janome M7) to quilt a throw size quilt. I put Aurifil 50wt to match the background (light navy) in the bobbin. It doesn’t compare to hand quilting, but it looks pretty good! Also used a topstitch #100 needle. I slowed down my machine, maybe not quite slow enough, cause my thread did shred twice!🤨. But some of the fabric was a heavier loosely woven fabric.
Great information! Thanks. Did you know some prominent quilters/websites have “discovered” the Tailor’s Clapper tip to flatten seams? It happens all the time with your tips! Keep educating the quilting community, Suzy!
haha! I love hearing that!
Suzy, when you are talking about quilting with the 12 weight are you talking about on a Longarm?
I have a longarm and I’m hoping it would work on it, excited love the look.
I am sewing on a domestic machine – a BERNINA 770 QE to be precise.
Thank you for the information. The comparison
Of stitch length is very helpful.
I wonder if you match the bobbin thread to the fabric you are stitching on if you will get a bit of a hand quilted look.
That could be! Time for more testing 😉
Hi Suzy! 12 wt. is a wonderful look! I always use a needle with a larger eye for 12 wt. A metallic needle works well. The larger eye creates less friction as the thread runs through so not as likely to fray or break.
Thanks for the great information about quilting with 12 wt thread. I’ve been using Superior Threads Sew Sassy 12 wt threads according to their recommendations to use on home/domestic sewing machines, a Topstitch #100/16 needle along with a top tension setting of 2.0. As you say, slow sewing is the key! It’s a great quilting look.
100/16 you say? I wonder if I could sew faster with a bigger needle like that…always looking for ways to speed up. haha!
yes you can sew faster, but the eye of the topstitch is much longer than the universal or quilting needles. it is kinder to the regular threads of 50 weight….and would be much more suited to your 12 weight because of the larger eye.
I almost always use the 100/16 needle size when machine quilting, but I’ve never tried a topstitch needle. Can’t wait to check this out! – Suzanne
Love all this information! Can’t wait to try it! I do a lot of big stitch quilting with Number 8 embroidery floss, so I think I’d really love the results of the 12 wt. machine quilting. Thanks for sharing!
First, I would like to apologize for my awkward english, I’m french…
I would have liked to read your article 3 weeks ago ! 😉
Because I used 12 thread for seams with jeans fabrics … It’s been an absolute nightmare… I did a lot of tests by changing the tension of the needle and the bobbin, nothing worked, the bobbin thread always came out on the right side, and sometimes entangle or loose even with a tight tension. My husband told me to try with an old 70′ Singer sewing machine ! And the result was much more convincing ! I have used the singer several times since and it competes/completes well with my main 15 years old Pfaff machine (deutsch brand).
I never thought (dared) use a different thread for top thread and bobbin !
THANK YOU for all the tests and tips you give to us ! So helpful ! Merci !
Claire, votre anglais est excellent. (unlike my French – it’s been too many years since I learned it)
I recently tried using Aurifil 12wt on a flannel (unbatted) baby quilt with a 5 stitch length and 100 needle and loved how it looked! I found that at the end of each row if I pulled the quilt out the usual way to cut the threads that they would fray/break. Well, they means one because I didn’t want that to happen again as I was tying them off and burying them so I needed long tails (no binding to later hide my edges…I just sewed right sides together and turned). Instead, I pulled down extra thread above the needle eye and then gently hand pulled it though the eye until the tail was long enough to cut. It’s fun to discover a chunkier look similar to hand quilting. Thanks for the tips!
Hi Deb,
I’ve found a trick to avoid the fraying and braking problem at the end of a line of quilting. Staying in the seam allowance, just sew over to where your next line of quilting would be, and away you go! A little extra thread is used, but you won’t have any fiddling to do pulling extra thread through the needle and best of all, no ends to bury!! I used this method on a baby quilt. I used binding, but all my extra thread paths were automatically hidden once the binding was on.
Im go glad this article popped up on Pinterest. I’m making a tablecloth from a vintage postage stamp panel I found at a sale. I was not planning on batting to keep the bulk down and have it backed with some vintage linen. With dimensions of 48×72 it’s nice to hear I have options than doing this by hand.
Thnx…great tips and will go shopping immediately…love the bulky cool
What is your favorite thread?
I tend to use a lot of Aurifil in my machine, Sulky 12 wt. for hand binding, and DMC pearl cotton #8 thread when hand quilting.
My machine keeps skipping stitches with the 12wt. thread, especially if I need to pivot at a corner. I’ve tried setting my stitch length to 0 to reenforce the corner, but I still keep seeing skipped stitches. When I first started sewing the top thread would get bunched up underneath so I adjusted my tension to make it slightly tighter, but then my thread broke a few times, maybe because the tension was too tight? Do you have any suggestions to make this type of quilting more successful? I love the look and don’t want to give up, but I’m getting frustrated.
Yes, skipped stitches and broken thread is very frustrating. If you haven’t tried going up a need size, that would be my next suggestion. Use a 90/14 needle and see if that makes a difference.
I have a Juki 2010 so I am able to adjust tension & presser foot. I am actually able to use #10 cotton crochet thread & leather needle (110/16?) in my machine. I use it on bags that I make. I use a really long stitch. It sure looks like the modern quilting stitches & the chunky thread is awesome!
I just “happened” on your site while going through Pinterest and I’m absolutely blown away! Your blog was terrific and I thought absolutely complete. I’m just starting to fmq–I’ve been in the ditch until now–and I can’t wait to do my own testing with #12 thread. Thank you so much and yes, of course, I’ve signed up for your newsletter!J
Thanks for the helpful insights. I would love to give finish with a machine to my quilts.
I started making a baby quilt and I use an invisible thread by Gutermann 100%Polamida and when I felt the other side it was ruff and brittle can you tell me What would be the best way to handle that.
Invisible thread is like sewing with plastic – it’s not going to be soft. If you want an invisible look, but the soft feel, I would suggest matching your thread to the fabric as best as possible.
I am not a fan of invisible thread (if I do use it, I use Monopoly), but what I do when I don’t want the thread to show is use Wonderfil’s Invisafil – it’s a 100wt thread and if the colour is close you don’t notice it. It’s still strong though
Just read all the article and comments, Great! Anxious to try, I appreciate all I read.. Thank you from Ohio
THANK YOU, Suzy!!!!!!!!!
I just hand quilted my first quilt using a sashiko style, needle and 12 wt thread. This will be the perfect style to bind my quilt! I’m doing the binding by machine and backwards so these stitches will be on front!!!!!!!!!! My hands need a rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
love the help
Suzy, I tried this on my Bernina 635 and the thread kept breaking. I did use a jeans needle (100/16?) and used 50 wt in the bobbin. I didn’t think to change the tension. That was something in middle school Home Economics they said to never do! 😉
Your thread kept breaking, huh? Well it could be that 50 wt. is too thin in the bobbin. 40 wt. is a smidge sturdier. Is there a chance you were sewing too fast? That could cause thread to break.
Also, a 100/16 jeans needle is different than a regular 100/16 needle. Maybe try a standard 16. And 50wt thread is probably too delicate for a 16 needle. Maybe also try a 14 Quilting needle as the tip is a different shape
I just found your site !!!! I want read all your infos. I saw your video 2 times already. I love. Thanks for the info about threads and needles; it’s clear. I’m a french Canadian but I can read you perfectly.
Love,love love the 12 weight Thread look! So much fun discovering new ideas that give us unlimited possibilities for our craft! My Bernina dealer suggests using three different brands of 50 weight thread, otherwise it messes up my tension…then I get to visit the shop! I use Mettler, Guttermans or Aurifil …. does your Bernina dealer suggest the 12 weight brands your using? Thanks for sharing!
My dealer didn’t mention that. I used Sulky 12 wt. with a lot of success. Recently I tried free motion quilting with Aurifil 12 wt. and had TONS of trouble with the thread breaking. I know Aurifil is on the delicate side of the spectrum, so maybe I should give Mettler a shot.
There doesn’t seem to be a size on the threads..they have different no. The clerk at Joanne looked it up info wasn’t there.
What brand are you looking at? Some brands list it differently than others.
I like the look of the thicker threads – when I hand quilt I use Perle cotton to get that look. I’m wondering what color thread I should choose for a rail fence quilt? The “rails” go from white with deep blue flowers, to deep blue. Would you suggest using a deep blue color or something lighter?
My basic rule of thumb is to match the thread with the lightest color of fabric in the quilt. I like that look better than dark thread on light fabric. One time I used black thread on a pillow and it ended up looking like Frankenstein’s monster! haha!
Thank you, something new to learn. Will let you know when I have learned and tried
I cannot get the 12 wt. to work. I have a bernina 570. 50 at in the bobbin. What was your tension Suzy?
Does your thread keep breaking? Try using 40 wt. in the bobbin and sew slower. Report back 😉
I wonder if Krupa is experiencing the 12 wt. getting jammed in the bobbin case? I’m sewing on a Bernina 475 QE with Aurifil 12 wt and a size 90 needle and am getting major jamming! Sewing slowly, and the tension seems to be okay. Maybe it’s the Aurifil and I should try Sulky!
I guess this is one of those cases where trial and error is the only way we’ll know for sure. I wish I was more helpful!
I am very happy to know someone still hand quilts. I have a nice Hinterberg , Heritage A Versatile Folding Frame. I can send pictures and more info if you might be interested.I am not able to use it. Health issues. Marylyn
I also have a Bernina 770 QE, and use the stitch regulator when quilting other than straight lines. I find it difficult to “go slow” on the stitch regulator as it speeds up or down depending on how your hands move the quilt while quilting, even though I have positioned the machine to move as slowly as
possible. Any hints?
In my experience part of the learning curve with the BSR is that you have to go a certain base speed for it to kick in and work. It’s kinda like going from 0 to 50 miles per hour, however now that I have the hang of it, I’d like to go 80 miles per hour but it flashes at me that I’m going too fast. I guess in my analogy the sweet spot is 50-70 miles per hour. haha! Does that help at all?
Suzy, I have a vintage Singer, a pretty basic model. Do you think I can use a 12 wt. thread for my quilt ?? Thanks, Sandra
I would guess yes, but the only way to know is to try! 😉
I recently did a thread sampler quilt in a quilt along I’m participating in. With that lesson in mind, I scouted the threads at each locally owned fabric shop near me. At one I found a spool of Wonderfil Spaghetti, which is a 12 W&T cotton. I love the way it stitched up. I think it will be my go-to thread when I want to work with a heavy thread.
If the bobbin thread is the same weight, you will have less problems with “leaking” from one side to the other.
I have enjoyed working with a 12w thread for the last 2 years. I’ve used a 14/90 Microtex needle, a 3-3.5 stitch length and I surely preferred the Wonderfil Spaghetti thread among others. Not only for its efficiency and pleasure to quilt with but for its price as well.
I wanted to use 12 wt. thread to machine quilt a Sugarpop that I made for my son. Didn’t know what/how/if so I searched for tutorials. I should have know Suzy had a tutoria! You always have great tips on EVERYTHING! Where do you find your 12wt. thread? I would prefer to see it in person but I can only find it on Amazon. I am afraid my colors won’t match if I order it online. 😱
Wow, what great information – and inspiration. I often do the kinds of test pieces you did here for myself; now I won’t have to! Thanks for the ideas.
Suzy-you are so generous with your newsletter and all the information it provides. I sew clothes, home decor and a little quilting but your information is useful for all-I especially liked the one re: 12 wt thread. Thank you for your time and knowledge.
Thank you, Sharon! I’m so happy to hear that 🙂
Wait! You were in Grand Rapids and I didnt know that?! I would have been there in a minute. So sorry to have missed that.
Ha! That’s exactly what I thought, Barb! Let’s get her to come back.
I read also that you could use Dazzle thread in sewing machine, with a larger needle, similar to the 12 wt sulky thread. However, I could not even get the dazzle thread through the needle and I tried a 100 size needle. Any suggestions, or have you ever tried it? It’s either 12 or 28 weight. I can’t remember, but it’s like cotton intertwined with metallic sparkle thread. What a mess!
Oh dear, that sounds frustrating! I haven’t tried Dazzle thread, but I just looked it up and what I’m finding is that it’s comparable to 8 wt. thread. If that’s the case with what you were using, chances are it was just too thick for your machine.
If echo quilting between lines as in your sample, I will put the heavy thread in my bobbin. Turn the quilt face down on the machine and use 50 wt in top thread. Heavier thread in the bobbin and especially heavy metallic thread sews easily when in the bobbin. I use a contrasting colour like dark blue on top and heavy white in bobbin and it looks like Sashiko when finished. The blue breaks up the white stitch (which ends up on the front side of quilt) and makes it look more hand stitched. Fun option when echo quilting.
Oh WOW!! How inventive! Thank you for sharing, Brenda. I will need to try this!